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		<title>By: Mister Guy</title>
		<link>http://shesright.org/2009/02/10/obama-and-bipartisanship/comment-page-1/#comment-44886</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is not a bi-partisan bill.&quot;

LOL...tell that to the GOP members that are supporting it.

&quot;Nice distraction tactic with the &#039;GOP wants no stimulus&#039; line. I notice you did not refer to any actual GOP congress members who are saying that.&quot;

Wow, do you read anything but your own blog??  Tell that to Senators Jim DeMint (SC), Jim Inhofe (OK), Jeff Sessions (AL), Michael Enzi (WY), and David Vitter (LA)...all who are apparently backing the &quot;No Stimulus&quot; whine.  It&#039;s not working either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is not a bi-partisan bill.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL&#8230;tell that to the GOP members that are supporting it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Nice distraction tactic with the &#8216;GOP wants no stimulus&#8217; line. I notice you did not refer to any actual GOP congress members who are saying that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, do you read anything but your own blog??  Tell that to Senators Jim DeMint (SC), Jim Inhofe (OK), Jeff Sessions (AL), Michael Enzi (WY), and David Vitter (LA)&#8230;all who are apparently backing the &#8220;No Stimulus&#8221; whine.  It&#8217;s not working either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charity</title>
		<link>http://shesright.org/2009/02/10/obama-and-bipartisanship/comment-page-1/#comment-44882</link>
		<dc:creator>Charity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;the age of fear-mongering is fading fast I suspect…&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Tell that to the president, Mr. Pass-my-bill-or-face-&lt;i&gt;catastrophe&lt;/i&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The Dems are in control of Congress…so they created a bill at the insistence of their newly-elected Democratic President.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Umm, yeah.  Do you read, or just comment?

I said, and I quote, &quot;&lt;strong&gt;I have no problem with President Obama and the Democrats using their power to do what they want to do, without consideration for bipartisanship.  They won the election.  It’s their prerogative&lt;/strong&gt;.

What I do have a problem with is this pretense of bipartisanship.  The continued claims that this is a bipartisan effort, if only the Republicans would stop playing political games.&quot;

So, in other words, you agree with what I said.  This is not a bi-partisan bill.  Glad we cleared that up.

Nice distraction tactic with the &quot;GOP wants no stimulus&quot; line.  I notice you did not refer to any actual GOP congress members who are saying that.

The fact is, the GOP does have an alternative stimulus proposal - two, in fact.  They were rejected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;the age of fear-mongering is fading fast I suspect…&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Tell that to the president, Mr. Pass-my-bill-or-face-<i>catastrophe</i>.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The Dems are in control of Congress…so they created a bill at the insistence of their newly-elected Democratic President.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Umm, yeah.  Do you read, or just comment?</p>
<p>I said, and I quote, &#8220;<strong>I have no problem with President Obama and the Democrats using their power to do what they want to do, without consideration for bipartisanship.  They won the election.  It’s their prerogative</strong>.</p>
<p>What I do have a problem with is this pretense of bipartisanship.  The continued claims that this is a bipartisan effort, if only the Republicans would stop playing political games.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, in other words, you agree with what I said.  This is not a bi-partisan bill.  Glad we cleared that up.</p>
<p>Nice distraction tactic with the &#8220;GOP wants no stimulus&#8221; line.  I notice you did not refer to any actual GOP congress members who are saying that.</p>
<p>The fact is, the GOP does have an alternative stimulus proposal &#8211; two, in fact.  They were rejected.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Guy</title>
		<link>http://shesright.org/2009/02/10/obama-and-bipartisanship/comment-page-1/#comment-44880</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;you are saying that the GOP is to blame for the lack of bipartisanship because they opposed the bill?&quot;

I&#039;m stating the obvious...there are many in your Party that wanted no part of any stimulus plan, period.  Why do you think Fox &quot;News&quot; &amp; several hard-Right blogs were pushing the &quot;NoStimilus&quot; website so hard??  The GOP is still unfortunately trying to capitilize on some of the opposition to the federal rescue/bailout plan from last year.

Apparently the GOP, almost en-masse, is opposed to:

Energy conservation programs (the upgrade of federal buildings &amp; low- and middle-income homes to include replacing windows &amp; adding insulation) &amp; rebates for people to buy new efficient appliances, public transportation (building train lines, adding new bus routes, and upgrading existing systems), renewable energy loans (grants for various renewable energy &amp; transmission projects in the early stages of development...like wave power, geothermal, offshore wind, or solar projects), tax breaks for large-scale industry projects (allowing companies to take a &quot;carry-back&quot; - a tax credit against prior profits, plus allowing for direct federal grants), tax breaks that will cut taxes for 95% of American workers, and billions of dollars for states that face the prospect of making deep cuts in school aid &amp; other programs.  

&quot;It is not bipartisan for one party to create a bill, then reject all suggestions made by the other party.&quot;

Who would you rather create the bill...the Green Party??  The Dems are in control of Congress...so they created a bill at the insistence of their newly-elected Democratic President.  There are many portions of the bill that have support from the GOP, but the calculus (and I&#039;m being nice calling it even that) that is being done right now in most of the GOP is that they need to try &amp; stop Obama now before he gets momentum and more support from the American people for what he is out to change.

&quot;This bill will be the downfall of the US economy.&quot;

Wild hyperbole is not going to get your side anywhere Charity...the age of fear-mongering is fading fast I suspect...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you are saying that the GOP is to blame for the lack of bipartisanship because they opposed the bill?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m stating the obvious&#8230;there are many in your Party that wanted no part of any stimulus plan, period.  Why do you think Fox &#8220;News&#8221; &amp; several hard-Right blogs were pushing the &#8220;NoStimilus&#8221; website so hard??  The GOP is still unfortunately trying to capitilize on some of the opposition to the federal rescue/bailout plan from last year.</p>
<p>Apparently the GOP, almost en-masse, is opposed to:</p>
<p>Energy conservation programs (the upgrade of federal buildings &amp; low- and middle-income homes to include replacing windows &amp; adding insulation) &amp; rebates for people to buy new efficient appliances, public transportation (building train lines, adding new bus routes, and upgrading existing systems), renewable energy loans (grants for various renewable energy &amp; transmission projects in the early stages of development&#8230;like wave power, geothermal, offshore wind, or solar projects), tax breaks for large-scale industry projects (allowing companies to take a &#8220;carry-back&#8221; &#8211; a tax credit against prior profits, plus allowing for direct federal grants), tax breaks that will cut taxes for 95% of American workers, and billions of dollars for states that face the prospect of making deep cuts in school aid &amp; other programs.  </p>
<p>&#8220;It is not bipartisan for one party to create a bill, then reject all suggestions made by the other party.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who would you rather create the bill&#8230;the Green Party??  The Dems are in control of Congress&#8230;so they created a bill at the insistence of their newly-elected Democratic President.  There are many portions of the bill that have support from the GOP, but the calculus (and I&#8217;m being nice calling it even that) that is being done right now in most of the GOP is that they need to try &amp; stop Obama now before he gets momentum and more support from the American people for what he is out to change.</p>
<p>&#8220;This bill will be the downfall of the US economy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wild hyperbole is not going to get your side anywhere Charity&#8230;the age of fear-mongering is fading fast I suspect&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charity</title>
		<link>http://shesright.org/2009/02/10/obama-and-bipartisanship/comment-page-1/#comment-44875</link>
		<dc:creator>Charity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was joking, in the sense that he said it jokingly.  That is the kind of joking that means, I&#039;m making fun of you, but it is all in good fun.  Yeah, real funny.

So, you are saying that the GOP is to blame for the lack of bipartisanship because they opposed the bill?  I guess you missed the entire point of this post.  It is not bipartisan for one party to create a bill, then reject all suggestions made by the other party.  That is what happened with the house bill.  That is why the Republicans stayed unified opposing it.  If that is Obama&#039;s definition of bipartisan - and it is - he uses a different definition then the people were voting for.  (Except for the partisan lefties.)

This bill will be the downfall of the US economy.  The GOP was right to oppose it.  It&#039;s a bad bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was joking, in the sense that he said it jokingly.  That is the kind of joking that means, I&#8217;m making fun of you, but it is all in good fun.  Yeah, real funny.</p>
<p>So, you are saying that the GOP is to blame for the lack of bipartisanship because they opposed the bill?  I guess you missed the entire point of this post.  It is not bipartisan for one party to create a bill, then reject all suggestions made by the other party.  That is what happened with the house bill.  That is why the Republicans stayed unified opposing it.  If that is Obama&#8217;s definition of bipartisan &#8211; and it is &#8211; he uses a different definition then the people were voting for.  (Except for the partisan lefties.)</p>
<p>This bill will be the downfall of the US economy.  The GOP was right to oppose it.  It&#8217;s a bad bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Guy</title>
		<link>http://shesright.org/2009/02/10/obama-and-bipartisanship/comment-page-1/#comment-44874</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s what he has learned about how to create a bipartisan solution to tough problems?&quot;

I think he was joking Charity...that&#039;s the impression that I got when I watched the tail-end of this thing in prime-time.  BTW, when was the last time GWB gave a press coference in prime-time (and not in the middle of the day when everyone was at work)?

&quot;What I do have a problem with is this pretense of bipartisanship.&quot;

Obama&#039;s learning the hard way what a lot of us were saying before the election ever happened.  The GOP is not interested anymore in being &quot;bipartisan&quot; at the federal level...look at the way that they ran things (particularily in the House) when they were in charge.  

&quot;then he should have no problem taking full ownership of it.&quot;

LOL...I don&#039;t think that this will be a problem at all.  What will happen of course, just like after the 1993 effort (which got NO GOP votes at all) to deal with the rising federal deficit, when this stimulus bill has its intended effect...the GOP will try to take credit for something that they were opposed to in the first place.

The only thing uniting the GOP at this point seems to be their opposition to Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s what he has learned about how to create a bipartisan solution to tough problems?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think he was joking Charity&#8230;that&#8217;s the impression that I got when I watched the tail-end of this thing in prime-time.  BTW, when was the last time GWB gave a press coference in prime-time (and not in the middle of the day when everyone was at work)?</p>
<p>&#8220;What I do have a problem with is this pretense of bipartisanship.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s learning the hard way what a lot of us were saying before the election ever happened.  The GOP is not interested anymore in being &#8220;bipartisan&#8221; at the federal level&#8230;look at the way that they ran things (particularily in the House) when they were in charge.  </p>
<p>&#8220;then he should have no problem taking full ownership of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL&#8230;I don&#8217;t think that this will be a problem at all.  What will happen of course, just like after the 1993 effort (which got NO GOP votes at all) to deal with the rising federal deficit, when this stimulus bill has its intended effect&#8230;the GOP will try to take credit for something that they were opposed to in the first place.</p>
<p>The only thing uniting the GOP at this point seems to be their opposition to Obama.</p>
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